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Recapping Season 2: Dad Bods, Honor Challenges, and M.A.D. Choices
Well, here we are, at the end of season 2. It's probably hard to hear over the sound of your disbelieving sobs, but when you calm down, Doug and Jesse are here to give you a flyover of some of our favorite Season 2 moments. We got to share some amazing episodes with you this season and we've never been more thankful for every person listening. We hope Go M.A.D. has encouraged you to make a difference right where you are. Look forward to Season 3, coming this fall! (If you can see through your tears.)
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Hey, welcome to another new episode of Go Mad with Doug and Brad. Now, I don't want to be confusing, so I'm going to state this as clearly as I can and succinctly Instead of it being Go Mad with Doug and Brad, it's Go Mad with Doug and Jesse, because Brad is not here with us in the studio. Therefore, doug and Jesse, without Brad, will be doing this episode, but Brad is not with us. But don't worry, jesse is and I am.
Speaker 2:Yes, so maybe we can just make that an acronym and it would be a little bit more succinct. But that was pretty succinct.
Speaker 1:You're going to have to do that. No, but welcome. Hey, this is our final show of this season. Season three is going to be so fun. This was season two. Season three is on the way. That's in September We'll be kicking back into gear, but we decided that we would do just kind of a fun little thing here. Pick some of our favorite moments from season two. Every time I've heard a show was doing a clip show, a highlight show, you go. Man, that is pretty lame. Somebody is not around.
Speaker 1:They don't feel like doing a whole show, and I want to make it clear that's exactly why we're doing this.
Speaker 2:If you can't beat them, do the same thing that they're doing.
Speaker 1:So, brad, jesse, you've heard of anti-doping, that's like a baseball when you can't take steroids.
Speaker 2:Oh, sports, sports. Yes, good, I'm glad we're on the same page.
Speaker 1:So you can't take steroids. If you take steroids, you get slapped with a suspension for anti-doping. Brad is suspended for anti-donating, but, however, he's not anti, he's very pro that. But he's at way too many.
Speaker 2:So what's the limit then? What do you got to hit?
Speaker 1:We need to decide. This is the next podcast, because I feel like I'm right there.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm going to cross over it right as soon as the season ends, right after this episode.
Speaker 1:The Rubicon of Donuts. So Brad is actually out with On Eagles Wings right now. I'm having an amazing time. God is doing great things and he wanted to say hey to everybody, but without any further ado. Boy, how's this? For a segue, we're going to get into one of our favorite shows of the season here. Speaking of donuts, god and the Dad bod, let's check out one of our favorite moments from season two.
Speaker 5:Jesse, what is a dad bod?
Speaker 2:Yes, dad bod definition from Urban Dictionary. From the internet so it's official, very reputable. Okay, very official. Dad bod is a male body type that is best described as softly round.
Speaker 1:Softly round.
Speaker 2:Softly round.
Speaker 1:I just spit out my munchkin.
Speaker 4:It's built upon the theory.
Speaker 2:All right. It's built upon the theory that once a man has found a mate and fathered a child, he doesn't need to worry about maintaining a sculpted physique.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute. Isn't like the mom? It's the mom that's eating for two. Why does the dad get an excuse?
Speaker 5:I just can't get past softly round and I also can't get past the point of thinking so since I had not found a mate or followed a child before, I had a dad bod, what was it called? I don't want to hear answers to that. I don't want to hear.
Speaker 1:So you may just have a little bit of the gut, the dad bod thing. You may have been graduating into bad bod and everything in between. We're going to talk about all of it. I found a great quote about dad bods. This is a little less official. This says if human bodies were cuts of meat, the dad bod would skew more marbled rib eye than filet mignon. Or if human bodies were sea mammals, dad bod would be more like a grazing manatee, Then a speedy dolphin.
Speaker 5:Racing manatee.
Speaker 1:The dad bod is more mud slide than mountain, more soft serve than sorbet, more sad trombone more than clarinet. The dad bod is built for comfort. Think Chris Pratt from before he was on Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 5:He was a guy on Parks and Rec, so you might need to pause for a moment and just process all of what just happened here.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that one was a lot of fun to do.
Speaker 2:lots of experience with the dad bod yeah and definitely the best title that we've had of any episode.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I love that one and I will say that since that episode alright, in case anyone thinks these podcasts don't have an impact on the host I have lost one quarter of a pound. Of course, I took my socks off to for to hit that.
Speaker 2:Okay well, I'm very. Your socks are a quarter of a pound.
Speaker 1:It was winter time.
Speaker 1:I was. It was doubling up, so one of our most listened to Episodes of the season actually was a two-parter. It's called the honor challenge and we actually had Anna Anna, my wife, and Sarah Brad's wife in here with us to Help us do the honor challenge, where we were actually sharing specific things that we love and appreciate about each other, hopefully to energize and encourage Folks listening our friends here to also do the same. We had an amazing time. We have to bring the wives back in here. Bring Jesse's awesome wife, tara, in the next time. Get some great secrets. You have to bribe her. That I promise I will not use for blackmail, okay, in any way. But hey, take a listen to a clip from one of our most listened to podcast episodes ever. What does it mean?
Speaker 5:for the Ladies out there, what does it mean? To hear words of honor, to feel like your husband highly values you. What does what does that mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the last episode about this, brad and I said we were going to give it a shot to actually be Doing this challenge more and more, so hopefully it's. It's Done something good in your guys hearts. Talk to us.
Speaker 6:So for me, I have to say there's there's the element of encouraging. Somebody makes them want to do that more or meet the the level of encouragement that you're given. But personally, for me, even more than that is, it makes me feel seen, it's easy as a mom, as a wife. There's so many things that we do that are behind the scenes, whether it's laundry or cooking or Just washing the dishes at the end of the day when you're tired and you just start to feel invisible sometimes. And so when when you say to me I really appreciate that meal or thanks for doing the dishes tonight, it, it makes it feel like it matters, like you matter and what you do matters.
Speaker 5:Okay. So then, to interject there, we've been talking about Sarah. You and I have heard it repeatedly in some of these Classes we've been part of, and everything this year with teaching some of these young native leaders as partly on Eagles Wings Leadership Center here. But we've been talking about the names of God, and so, if you're wondering, how does this all fit into being an ambassador? One of the names of God is Elroy, the God who sees, hmm, and so when you are helping your wife, your husband, feel like they are seen. You are being Christ ambassador because you were being the hands and feet of Jesus and Helping them. Know that you see them but, more importantly, that God sees who they are and you see that as well.
Speaker 6:And that is one of the biggest things in marriage is to reflect God to each other. We want to reflect God to the world as ambassadors, but we want to start in our home, reflecting who God is, the essence of God to each other. It's good. I think just also feeling like we're a team, like it's him and I We've got married, now we have kids. We're, we're a team that's really good in life together.
Speaker 5:It's not. It's not kind of the two ships passing in the night or hey, this is what you do and this is what I do, but you guys are doing life, doing this together. I really like that.
Speaker 2:So an interesting effect about that episode was I felt like Having y'all's wives in the studio. Maybe you guys were really more intent on carefully choosing your words.
Speaker 1:Well, a little more well-behaved than you. I think it was bring them in each.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think it was a good effect we could have a live studio audience. That it would be, oh that official, I feel that it well.
Speaker 1:All we have to do is find enough people that would care about listening to us.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Well, uh, that's it. We're putting the call out. All you have to do is pay your own airfare and Meals and lodging and you can come and be part of the studio audience through a window for only thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2:We appreciate that in advance. We're coming into an episode that actually ended up being our most listened to episode to date About the asbury revival. I felt really encouraged from this one, not only because it hits such a current Topic that everyone seemed to care about, but because it left me wanting more of God after you know that is.
Speaker 1:I think that the real evidence when something is is of God, and so much of what I heard About as Barry was that it wasn't just a moment in time, but that it really inspired people to make more of a difference. Anyone who listens to this podcast knows that we are all about how do we be better Ambassadors for Christ, because God is making his appeal, like it says in his word, in that scripture. He is making his appeal about how awesome he is, how much he loves us through us as Barry. An incredible time, so much bad news out there. This was big news and it made it in just about all the outlets I heard. Let's take a quick listen to One of our most amazing moments of the podcast this year you know, beyond what's occurring and and has gone on at asbury, I think.
Speaker 4:This morning, literally, I woke up and God God just seemed to be kind of speaking to me about what does this all mean? And, standing back from a bigger picture, could it be that God has said have more for you than you have experienced. All of you you've been, you've done everything right a church, you give to the right stuff, you believe the right beliefs, you go to the right meetings, you serve, you're doing all you're doing good stuff. But there's more. There's so much more. I have to pour out on you and he, as we needed a picture. We needed something that would God said.
Speaker 4:I want to show you what a more can look like, not exactly like what happened at the University, but I want to show you that there is more, and I believe that a lot of people that are with us right now With this podcast in their heart, even though they do all the right things, are saying I feel like there is more. So could it be that God has done this spontaneous thing I call spontaneous combustion? Nobody started it, nobody scheduled it, nobody managed it, nobody Produced it, and I looked up spontaneous combustion this morning. Did you? It is ignition. I did not. Well, okay, well, I'm shame on you, I thought everybody had.
Speaker 4:Spontaneous combustion is ignition without apparent cause.
Speaker 4:That's exactly what has yeah that has what, what and by the way it is spreading to church, youth groups, to Other universities or colleges, are reporting on similar kinds of spontaneous things going on, things igniting spiritually without an apparent human cause. So I I believe that God has been perhaps giving us something that would make us want to open up to a bigger, more that, the more that we are made for that we have not yet experienced, to perhaps stir our apathy and our contentment and to expose the mediocrity of what we were accepting as the whole Christian deal and ain't the whole deal. He's got more, he's got more, oh, man.
Speaker 1:God is On the move. Obslan is on the move as very as just the beginning. God is doing amazing things. We're watching him do incredible things in and through Native America and Native Americans. Brad is out and Ron is out with the on Eagles wings team right now, seeing God in action, movements of God Happening everywhere, all through this planet. Let's all pray to be a part of those. Yeah, speaking about a movement of God, I think that's movie guy org. Ted bear has really created something special With with this ministry, with this website.
Speaker 1:Jesse and I were literally just as we were sitting down to record talking about which movies were interested in going to see, and it has become a complete instinct, my first instinct when I'm like that sounds interesting. We're talking about Indiana Jones, we were talking about Mission impossible and the Oppenheimer movie and everything is. I go to movie guide org and I go. Well, not, it's great for kids, but hey, grown-ups, it's a great idea to know what we're about to put in our heart, because guard your heart above all else, for For it's the wellspring of life. Ted and his wonderful ministry, movie guide, helps us guard our heart. Let's take a listen to one of my favorite interviews We've ever done with Ted bear, who heads up movie guide. So, den, I'm 12 years old and I don't think I've ever wanted to see a movie more in my life Rambo, rambo comes out. All my friends, 12, 13, they're all seeing Rambo. Okay, they say they are, and I'm like Rocky's in this movie. I have to go see.
Speaker 5:Rambo.
Speaker 1:So I was bugging my dad about it every day. Dad, can I want to see Rambo, I want to see Rambo. So I remember we're out in the backyard and he surprised me. He says okay, doug, here's the deal. Now I didn't realize he was using psychology at this point, I'm too young to realize this. But he says looks me in the eye, doug, I trust you, I love you, I support your decisions, so sure, I will let you decide to go see it because I so trust your judgment. And then, of course, I didn't want to see it at all because I don't want to disappoint dad.
Speaker 3:That's beautiful.
Speaker 5:It's all about what a good dad, what a good dad.
Speaker 1:He was serious about winning our hearts loving Jesus versus behavior, because I mean, when you're two years old, you haven't tried to control your kid's behavior. But at some point before they're 18, before they move out of the house, if there's not a transfer from behavior to, I just love God and I'm winning a heart. I bring that up because I'm curious if there is a personal grid that you have to determine what you're going to watch to. What I watch, listen to, because the rating system, anyone who trusts the rating system, is in trouble.
Speaker 1:I mean you going?
Speaker 3:oh, it's PG the rating system is an evil ploy For the rating system when the churches were involved, through the Protestant film office and the Jewish defense league and the Catholic Legion of Decency, which have been all mocked in time, but they kept movies clean from 1933 to 1966. What I mean by clean? They didn't have foul language. You didn't have nudity sex. The violence was not porno violence or whatever you have today. And then they withdrew and Lyndon Johnson's press secretary because people stopped going to movies, went from 44 million weekly attendance to 17 million people weren't going to movies. The movie industry panicked. We don't have standards anymore. They gave up the standards and the standards were that you wouldn't portray violence in a way that a young, susceptible person would commit violence. You wouldn't portray sex in such a way that. So the standards were very positive, but they all fell apart. The church actually left Hollywood. Hollywood didn't leave the church.
Speaker 4:The head of parliament pictures.
Speaker 3:Jewish man said if you leave Hollywood, it's like taking the salt from the meat the meat's going to rot Within three years. It rotted and this guy Lyndon Johnson's corrupt press secretary came up with a rating system. But the rating system? Think about it. You love road trips, right? So you're driving through a town and you see a blinking red light where you know what you know I mean on a store, not on the. You know you get oh, that's alcohol, that's the place I can go to get something nefarious. And kids know that. They immediately know that if it's a blinking red, light, it's going to or whatever the movie is, it attracts them and it's the forbidden fruit.
Speaker 3:We know that from Adam and Eve, so we need to be so. The rating system became a way of deceiving people.
Speaker 2:The reason that episode was so interesting to me was because you could tell Ted Bear was someone who has lived the Hollywood life. He knew Hollywood in and out and was able to kind of see through where it needed to be see through and also to engage it where it needed to be engaged. Super interesting guy.
Speaker 1:Totally agree. We did that interview at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention this year, which was down in Orlando, and while we were there we had another opportunity for another great interview, who I call the. There's a lot of great college presidents out there, but, speaking of Rambo with Ted Bear, this is who I call the Rambo of college presidents.
Speaker 3:What does that mean? I don't even know what it means.
Speaker 1:But it means he's tough, it means he's strong, he's courageous Okay.
Speaker 1:And really what I really appreciated about this Mark Dobe, wonderful man, a man of God, a pastor, heading up Moody Bible Institute, one of the most amazing and continually amazing colleges. I was expecting, when we asked Mark about the younger generation, that their his response might be well, we've got a lot of work to do there and and I hope they'll get their act together. But you know what? He actually changed my thinking some because he wanted to jump in to the positive he has seen so much good coming from this younger generation and that completely hit me and I was like man, he's right, I see that, I see that my daughter, I see that in this generation, and Mark was certainly one of the most thoughtful and fascinating interviews we have had on Go Mad with Doug and Brad. So take a listen to this. What encourages you, what concerns you about this generation and what advice might you give to Christian parents who are shaping the life of Gen Zers?
Speaker 5:Softball question right there.
Speaker 7:Well let me say I would speak to both Gen Z and to Generation Alpha, who is the generation after them as well.
Speaker 7:So, like most older generations, I feel like I hear a lot of people bemoaning the state of our youth, and I've seen them sort of wilt in front of people that talk about what they see wrong with our youth. But let me say I have a 24-year-old son myself ministered to a lot of young people. So let me talk about, first of all, what amazing things I see among them. I see a generation that is passionate when God captures their heart, that's passionate about God. I see a generation that's unafraid to worship God lavishly, more than the generation that I come from, less reserved and more lavish in their worship. I see a generation that is driven by causes that are important. I see a generation that desires justice to happen, and I think that's something that comes from a God focus. I see a generation that values family more than previous generations, a generation that is willing to work for purpose in life and has a less emphasis on money than previous generations.
Speaker 7:And others they'll take a less paying job if they feel like it's more related to a cause that has significance. I see a generation that's very much more relational oriented, that values relations more than previous generations did, and I think every generation wants authenticity, but this generation especially desires authenticity. So those are some of the things that encourage me, these students that are studying and just willing to. They want to make sure their life counts for something and those that are captured by God.
Speaker 7:they just want to make a difference and I think every generation has wanted that, but I see it more in this generation than I think previous generations that are looking more for security and significance, some of the challenges that this generation faces.
Speaker 7:this generation has been raised with a strong onslaught of pluralism, which means that they have been taught since they were little kids that everybody's ideas should be accepted as equal, that there's really no truth, no absolute truth. Truth is what it means to you, and so they have been soaked in this idea that to take your truth and elevate it over someone else's truth is just wrong, and so there's a little bit of this, sometimes not a certainty about what truth is. Truth is very personal to people, which causes a lot of confusion. They've been raised in a generation where the whole topic of human sexuality and gender fluidity and just very confused, so they've been raised in a generation that says you need to try to respect everybody, whatever they think, however they define themselves, and so to try to define it more clearly is insulting or it's bigotry. So they're more ambiguous about sexuality, even Christian youth.
Speaker 7:They've been raised in culture, where there's not clear teaching about it. They're also because I think they've been taught that everybody's truth is valid. Sometimes they're more reluctant about evangelism because, they did a survey among millennials, not Gen Z or Alpha, but millennials that attend evangelical churches and ask is it wrong to share your faith with someone else that has different beliefs in order to convert them? And they 70% believe that it was wrong. What's wrong? Evangelism?
Speaker 7:They believe that evangelism is wrong these are evangelical millennials going to church because they've been so soaked in a culture of respecting everybody's ideas as equal. Not just I respect you as a person. Even you have different ideas. I have to validate your truth and I have to celebrate whatever you believe because if not, it's demeaning to you. That's what culture has taught this generation. I think the other thing that I've observed about this generation is that, especially coming out of the pandemic, the escalation of anxiety, loneliness, suicidal ideation, that combined with an over dependency on these devices since 2012,.
Speaker 7:sociologists have studied a precipitous increase in anxiety, loneliness, depression, especially among the college age and, in particular, women, but not exclusively women, and the only difference that they can tell is that this is 2012 is around, when these smartphones became common to everybody. And so we are hyper connected but very disconnected, and so that has some effects on people's emotional well being as well. So those are some of the challenges that just the generation is facing, as well as some of the beauty that this generation has as well.
Speaker 1:See, like I said, fascinating stuff, jesse. That has to encourage you to know that there are these kinds of you've got three young children. It's got to encourage you that there are still these kinds of amazing colleges and places of learning for young people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Mark Job I felt was extremely real in his understanding of the next generation and also extremely positive and extremely encouraging definitely the kind of person I would want to model service after.
Speaker 1:You know, I completely agree and, speaking of real and positive and encouraging, we pray and I don't just say that as a fun phrase, as a deep phrase, we really do pray a lot that this podcast is encouraging for you. Thank you so much for being a part of Season 2. If there are some that you missed, check out Season 2, check out Season 1, share it with friends if you would. That's how the word gets out about podcasts. We pray that we are even just a small part of you thinking about and acting on being an even more effective ambassador for our awesome Savior Jesus. Jesse, you do such an amazing job of producing this show. Thank you, thank you to our listeners and Season 3. Season 3.
Speaker 1:We were just talking about this. We have some really great stuff lined up, including guests.
Speaker 2:We're not going to tell you yet, but make sure, in September there's one in particular that's in the hopper that I'm really looking forward to.
Speaker 1:We might even kick things off there, we don't know. But that's going to be good, I know that. So have a great summer. We'll be back soon, so until next time go mad.