Discovering God's Plan: The Warrior Worship Story

Turn up the volume! As our annual conference for hundreds of Native American young people is happening, , Brad interviewed Doug and Jesse about Warrior Worship - an ongoing music project focused on empowering Indigenous leaders and magnifying Jesus. Doug and Jesse talk about walking in God's will as they recount how Warrior Worship came into being, and how God has directed them along the way.
 
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Transcript

Can You Know God’s Will

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey, welcome to Go Mad with Doug and Brad and Jesse. So, can you know God's will? And if you can, how do you know it? Well, we're hoping as you hear some of our story today, you'll hear some things that you can apply to your story. Also, excitingly enough, what kind of SPF to use when your skin is so light like this that it glows in the dark after being in the sun for eight minutes? So stick around.

Summer Memories And Sunburn Humor

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Do you guys have any like summer memories or or things you're even looking forward to this time? Like what's a what's a core m they say core memories? What's a burns? Burns. Burns. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Sunburns. Sunburn. Sunburn. Context. I have to be very careful in the summer. Um I You do. You're you're you're you're quite pasty. I'm sorry. I and this is me with a tan. Um I use SPF 43,000. You may not have you might go, oh, they don't sell that. They do, but you have to climb up a Tibetan mountain.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

About 6,000 feet up, there's a guy. There's a guy telling it out of his trunk.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

Wait, wait, wait. So there's a guy who's driven. I don't know how we got you up there. And you have to walk.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Your story is full of bulbs, right? I know. But basically, if I if I basically if I walk out to our get our mail in the front yard, I come back and Anna's like, you are sizzling. What happened? And I'm like, oh, I'm hot. No. No. You're well, yes, but it's because your skin is.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Yeah, you know what? I the sunburn was a problem for me because growing up, I had uh I've I've you know, I've never been the most uh even when I was in better shape and everything, never been the most secure with the shirt off kind of guy, like walking, strutting around the beach. So I would have on at least like kind of those uh they were called when I was growing up in New Jersey, guinea tees. So you had like kind of the sleeveless shirts and everything else. No, I don't even know. They still may be called that.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

It's probably named after guinea pig.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

But it was it, but that would leave when you got burned. The tan line was the worst. It was like that is then you have no choice. You can't take off the shirt because it's like, no, I will look like a fool.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

So that's that kind of sounds like a good country song. Never been too secure with my shirt off now. My wife says my wife says after winter, my legs are so white that she's convinced she can actually see through them. Wow. I'm actually grateful they're behind the table right now. Um at least for me. What about you? You're you're not uh you're not uh you kind of have the uh oh, Brad said pasty. No, he's he's less so than us, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Yeah, uh summer. I don't know why I just thought of this. Uh do y'all remember Tomahawk Lake in New Jersey? I don't. Okay. Well, so um uh you just mentioned summer core memories, and I just remember going to this lake that had these water slides, and it's probably before like water slide regulations were set in place in terms of safety.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Regularly in the 80s regulations.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

It was like kind of just basically what my memory of these water slides was this is awesome, and it's probably not safe. And it probably doesn't exist today as as it was, but man, they went fast.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

It sounds like the action parking.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

He grew up near action park. So this was right in line with that. If you don't know action park, just Google it. Google it. We don't have time for it. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

It's why there are rules now. Let me just put it that way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

And lawyers So I actually, when I I've got a lot of great memories from the summer, but for the last over 30 years, my summer, I'm gonna do air quotes for those who

Warrior Leadership Summit And On Eagles Wings

SPEAKER_00 4:10

are not watching. Vacation, I love when I do that. My special education has been the same thing. I hop in an RV uh with my family. And it's better just to travel or sit in it. Nope, I hop. I that's why we have an RV. And am I being helpful right now? You are not. Um we we travel with a team of Native American young people called the On Eagles Wings team. Awesome thing, man. We'll get to talk, I think, more this summer later about the On Eagles Wings hope team. But it all starts with Warrior Leadership Summit, which is a conference where we welcome hundreds, over 500, sometimes up to 700, Native young people from across North America. And they come together for five days of just hearing more about who Jesus is, how they can live for him. Just incredible.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Realizing that they're not alone.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah, they can put it a real identity, too. Yeah, absolutely. So it's an incredible few days together. That kicks off just a few days after this podcast will launch, and we are so excited to see what God's gonna do this year.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

So you're saying WLS, I've kind of always have looked at Warrior Leadership Summit as like the seed of on Eagles Wings because because so many times the On Eagles Wings team members come out of Warrior Leadership Summit because of something amazing God has done in their heart there. And and then and then on this team for a month that is going and sharing the reason uh some people have used the words missions history because of the courage of these native young people that are going and sharing with their own people about Jesus. And uh that's why amazing things are happening because of their courage. So it's it where Leadership Summit is just an an amazing place. Uh, it's so awesome seeing our native brothers and sisters in Christ realizing they're not alone. Uh they can feel very alone on their uh on a reservation or in a native community that might not know a lot about Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Yeah, and we're gonna uh zoom in a little bit on one aspect of Warrior Leadership Sum today, because it ties into both your guys' stories some.

Why Warrior Worship Exists

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Um this is uh it it we've had incredible teaching at Warrior Leadership Sum for years, and that's a core part of what we do. But also, along with that, is setting the stage through worship. And so we've had different uh worship teams through the years. Doug, you've always been a key part of helping lead worship at WLS. But then a few years ago, we had started using the phrase warrior worship. Um now it's specifically worship music. Yes, worship music. Sorry, yeah, for worship music and uh so be so we can talk more about it. Doug, why don't you tell us what when I when we say warrior worship today, what is that uh we're not worshiping warriors. Uh this is about what is this about?

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Very simply, uh we when we uh start um when you watch a uh music video uh that's done by warrior worship, what you'll see right at the beginning is empowering leaders, magnifying Jesus. And uh about twelve years ago, for years and years, but um uh when we would have these um these feedback forms from uh at the end of Warrior Leadership Summit, the kids just kept saying we want to be able to bring home the worship experience with us. Um we had and and it happened so many years, it was requested so many times. I had a background in in music. Jesse has a big background in music, um, an amazing talented guy. And we just said maybe we should give this a shot, and without going into all the details, we went and talked with an amazing producer, a guy who actually played with Mercy Me, um uh and um and is a is a highly sought producer. We're like he'll never do it. We he doesn't know who we are. He heard Native America, he already had that kind of um idea for ministry in his heart. The Lord really put it together at a cheesecake factory. Wow where where the Lord moves plenty of less. And and uh so the idea, just the bottom line really is there are so many Native American young people that have amazing giftings in lots of ways. Oh yeah. But sp in in many ways, just the creativity, you know, i this is an artistic Native Americans are known to be amazing artisans and artists, and that includes music. And it's it's uh sad. Sometimes you'll hear we we'll at we're a leadership summit, we there's a um kind of a talent show, and you'll hear um a Native American brother or sister uh singing or playing guitar, and you go, that is an amazing voice. That what a gift they have. And that's the only time, like that one time that anyone knows and hears it, and that's just a a crime to me. Uh so we'll go and we'll ask them, hey, do you would you like to be involved with this warrior worship? So we've seen um over the last 11 years, this was our 11th project. Every year we do a a um an original worship music project where Jesse and I and and our native friends write the music, record the music, and then and then lead it uh at Warrior Leadership Summit and in other places during the year. And what we've seen is now many Native young people being um uh brought up in their gifts, the Lord really working in their life, and now we're seeing them doing the same thing as God tends to do with other native leaders that have musical giftings, and then of course, but the real the the most bottom line is to honor our great savior and um uh hopefully write songs. What's great about being able well, why do it, why do an original, why why write these yourself? We're able to write specifically for our audience um of Native American young people and some of the things they go through, and then applying the truths of scripture and our savior uh into those songs. What about you, Jesse?

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Well, uh, yeah, I actually have a question for Jesse here, uh, but I'm gonna give you a second to think about it because they don't know Doug and Jesse don't know all the questions I'm gonna ask here today. Uh so Jesse, my question just a moment for you is what's a what's one story you've seen with a native young person uh who's been involved with warrior worship projects and just kind of how you've what you've seen happen in their lives. So I'm going to Jesse for that in just a moment.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

I'm gonna give Jesse a a couple seconds to think about that and say, stay tuned because how we get to this point is quite a story. And you're gonna hear things for your own um ideas for your own walk and the own questions you might be having about uh what God is asking you to do in your life.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

This is like one of those stories where you see the ending and then you go the uh, you know, 60 days prior or whatever. So we're we're getting to that in just a moment because I did want you to hear what it is that we're talking about first. And I would encourage you uh right now, and we'll I'll mention this at the end again. You can look up Warrior Worship on any of the popular music platforms, Spotify, Apple Music, all that. Uh, you can find on YouTube. You want to make sure that you're checking this out because it's war it's worship music that's a little different. Uh, there's uh some kind of classic, uh new takes on classic hymns, but there's also a lot of originals that are done not just it's not just this little light, fluffy lyrics. I mean, a lot of these songs are theologically rich and have almost a callback to some hymns because of the theological depth to them. And you want it, but they're fun too, and they're rockers, and there's ballads, and there's all sorts of stuff in the mix. So don't miss out on checking out Warrior Worship.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Or go to onegalswings.com and you can actually see all of the videos in one place as as Jesse is opening his mouth, breathing in. Yeah, Jesse, talk to me.

Saying Yes To Hidden Gifts

SPEAKER_00 12:14

What's what's one that comes to mind for you?

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Uh well, there's the two aspects of uh what we get to do in that there's the the people in front of us that w we get to minister to, that we get to serve, uh the the people who come to the conference, the warriors we call them, uh ministering to them in song and thinking of lyrics that what what do they need to hear? Um that's one aspect of it that's really uh amazing. And then the other aspect is like Doug was alluding to, um every year um it's shifted over the years in terms of who plays music and who writes at uh for for Warrior Leadership Summit. But just seeing God provide not only who we need, but um really give us some cool surprises along the way in terms of uh oh, so and so wrote this song. Wow, this is this is great, let's do this, or um yeah, let's have this oh, this person, let's have them sing this here. This is you know, and just seeing God uh fill in what we need, when we need it, uh, in order to to serve the conference well. It's been really cool.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

More and more our native friends are are saying, Hey, we'd love to have you hear this song. You think that could be on the project? And that's what's exciting to me is how many more songs now are that way. And I'll tell you this real quick. When you see our native brothers and sisters in Christ worshiping God through song together, it there are times I just have to catch my breath. I'm up there helping lead, but what God is doing in those moments is so powerful and spiritually the word I'm the only word of God is spiritually majestic that um I I have to catch my breath and not just start bawling because of how great God is and how uh how our our our friends, our warrior the warriors are going. I can do this and I can serve um where I am because uh I've got others that uh love him just like I do.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

I uh it it really is a tremendous moment to see that in the room and uh it is uh just what you mentioned as far as some of the uh involvement of people writing and everything else. I when you to because I want people to this is one takeaway today, so if you're jotting down notes, jot this down that you may be one of the people that you have a gift that you've been hiding. Maybe it's because other people have said some things to you that cause you to be insecure about it, and so you're hiding it. Maybe it's because you're just shy and you're like, I don't want to let this out there. But we have seen, even at the On Eagles Wings Leadership Center, and certainly through warrior worship, that when people are given an opportunity to express these gifts, the things that we see, it's just like, why weren't you doing something with this sooner? So I may don't shortchange the gifts and talents God has given you. And that's where I want to get to next here. Uh is when you look at uh Matthew 25, you read the story of the talents, and you see that there are these gifts, these talents that God gives to people. And it's like, what did you do with this? And it's like, well, I used it. Well, I hit it. And uh, and it is it's going through this and saying, so what are we supposed to do with these talents? Doug, let

Doug’s Unexpected Calling Journey

SPEAKER_00 15:49

me start with you because I in people that are trying to figure out God's will in their lives and and everything, you've got quite the God's will journey. And I know it's gonna be tough to summarize this, but I'll do it as fast as I can. Yeah, take us back because your story was not one where even you realize the talent you that God had given you at first.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Sometimes God will tap you on the shoulder and um and ask you to try something. And um don't just don't just uh um blow that off. Uh the the headline, the movie title, Many Are the Plans in a Man's Heart. Um so um I'm gonna do this as briefly as I can. I was uh very much into uh high school sports, specifically football. It was everything at that point in my life. It was my God. I hate that it was, but it was an idol, I should say. Um had a terrible leg injury, uh, couldn't play anymore, um, depressed about it. What is going on? How could this happen? My friend Jim, uh who was a believer a few years older than me, came, tapped me on the shoulder at a pizza place one day, and he says, Hey, you're supposed to sing in our band. I went, Well, there's a couple problems here. Let's start with I've never sung before, which means you've never heard me sing before. How could you possibly think this is a good idea? He said, You know what? I heard about what happened. I mean, I've got this huge leg brace on. And he says, I'm telling you, I really feel like God wants you to do this. I I well, I have nothing else to do. I'll give it a shot. You can hear how bad I am, and we'll move on. Um I I didn't know what he was doing, but I okay, I'll give it a shot. Took a leap. It turned into a little something. It's high school, nothing great, but enough where I really started to develop a love for music and for writing. Um, by the way, we had three band names. You did, three different band names. They'll always change when you're in a high school band. Uh, one was Fire by Night. The one we had the longest was Long Shot. But perhaps the crowd favorite, my personal favorite was Monkey Sweat. Which we would have kept that. Uh you know what? Um, but those two kind of normal names.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

What? Like, where did Long Shot come from? Oh, wait, you know, meant the monkey. I think I meant yeah, just no. You know what?

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Uh it's just but it's a good example of just obeying God when He's telling you. Jim, Jim was with didn't know me super well, and God said, tap that guy in the shoulder uh and tell him this. And he did.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

And so the pause there, real quick. If God puts it on your heart, you're listening, if God puts it on your heart, it doesn't make a ton of sense. You could make a difference in someone's life by giving them an opportunity that God tells you to do, even if it makes no sense at the time.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

And then if God's giving you peace in your heart about it, then and you say, Okay, I will try this. This seems like it's from the Lord. It might sound crazy, but it doesn't mean it's not from Him. Um so I'll stop there from now, but because but there are some more uh cool. And you also learn guitar then in high school too. Guitar Yeah. Yes, exactly. You know, I remember wanting God um when when it was time to Brad, is it time to discuss um the next step getting out to um a reservation or or soon? You're leading to the other.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

See, Jesse's behind me right now. I don't fully know the answer to this, Jesse. What where did your kind of music involvement uh uh start, just in your life? Where did that interest come from?

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Well, when I was a teenager, I was This is gonna sound so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

You saw a band called Monkeysweat live.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

I just couldn't I just had to make music. Uh it uh that's too good. I was more into the uh the technology and the recording and um that side of things. I I had a really old computer and had some music software on it, and I learned the software before I learned much about music. Okay. And so I I really loved um uh I I collected vinyl. I was like, I liked the idea of of like DJing and everything that goes along with that. And so I didn't really know much about music, but I knew some about recording and about I guess you could say production. Just a little. And it was bad. So uh that kind of came uh was on hold for um a good while in my my early adulthood um until we started Warrior Worship. And uh essentially, I don't know how I don't remember how it happened, Doug, but maybe you went, Oh, you have you know some experience with recording? And I was like, yeah. Yeah, I do. I got so much. I remember that's exactly how you said it. I was, you know, and um really had to grow leaps and bounds through what we did in Warrior Worship.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

So when did you said yes? You said yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

I did, I said yes. Oh, that's really good. Right there. I I hack I always tell people I hack my way through playing keys. Uh and that that largely came f you know, necessity is some other invention, being like, well, we have to you know play this thing for the album, uh, so let me just figure out how to play it. And so uh it it kind of went from there.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

So I love that what you said there, Doug. Let me say this now. Jesse won't say this about himself and he'll probably try to run in here and cover my butt not only I, but the folks who work with him, um our producer, our engineers, the the um everyone that that works with Jesse has now become just by saying yes, he is an an an incredible uh um excellent recorder of music, writer of music, performer of music. And um I'll bet he would say it didn't start out that way, but as but uh just from saying yes. Um and it's interesting that he gave Jesse these these ideas and these interests. See that's the thing is God's not always going to um he he gives us these these uh passions and and these loves in our heart and we might have a plan for what we want to do with that but so does he. And and the trick is going he didn't give me these these giftings and these interests for a re uh for uh randomly he gave them to me for a reason and by saying yes to opportunities that he gives you to serve him you not only find out where he wants you to go but you find out what he's capable of doing through you. It's it's the loaves and the fish man we Jesse and I'll both say they're people more i gifted than us but we just you bring what he gives you to him and he makes it so much more.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

I love what I actually love what Jesse did on uh Dust on this year's album so you should go check it out I check out the whole album's great the uh that one I had not heard going into it and that's a powerful one. Um so Doug I I I'm gonna be the guy that's got to try to keep us on track for uh time here but um tell us uh so from everything God led you to in high school and into college and everything how did you wind up really using this gifting specifically in ministry with Native America?

SPEAKER_02 23:40

So I grew up in suburban New Jersey um in the answer. Well this is this is the thing this is the thing um so grew up in suburban New Jersey um ended up at Wheaton College uh so suburban Chicago there to a desert reservation very desert very very desert um I I remember when God I I had a completely different plan my my plan was um once I really got into music was to I at Wheaton College I was like I'm gonna go to uh Nashville and become a be a big CCM artist and woo woo it'll be great and travel the country and everything and God went yeah but here's the thing um not Nashville uh about a thousand miles or so west of that to this to this reservation and I really remember going God well that doesn't make a whole lot of sense and and you know what my heart is and you said just trust me on this and I'm glad I did I had wonderful uh family and people friends around me encouraging me to to listen um and I remember wanting God to give me a lot more of the details by the way okay well how am I going to use this gift and um and and where am I going to live and all those things and all I could get from him was trust me on this I'll tell you where you're supposed to go I'll tell you who you're supposed to start with there as far as working with but that's it you're just supposed to go I'll fill in the rest once you get there. So if you're listening today like well I'll just wait until he's given me more of the contract details so much of the time I remember dad telling telling me when when I was asking about this he said the way God works so much when you're trying to figure out his will is see a step, take a step see a step take a step he'll tell you the next step, take it and then he'll tell you the next one. So if you're waiting on obedience until the Lord tells you the details um he simply is probably not going to until you've taken the steps he's asking to take um he won't give you the whole battle plan but he'll give you the next step. Just as a side note here um the best way to know God's will is is to get your mind out of the world and into the word Romans 12 don't conform to the pattern of this world so if you're trying to figure out what is God's will he tells us he said did you know you can test and approve what my will is you can know it. In fact the Bible says we can have the mind of Christ you can know test and approve God's will his good pleasing and perfect will by letting the word transform you. So New Jersey to uh not New Jersey to Nashville um Wheaton to an Arizona uh Native American reservation the middle of a desolate desert to start a local youth ministry to um to then go into many reservations with the Christian rock brand to bring the gospel um uh in the to bring the gospel all over the country and into Canada that way and then to uh the Ozarks to a worship music movement with my insanely gifted friend Jesse and and lots of native friends to now presidential leadership of said Hutchcraft Ministries ministry just like I drew it up.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Just like you drew it up that's right there we go oh my goodness yours the the lines you just drew uh probably would have intersected with the lines that you had for yourself at well no point but um no point I think that uh there's some things that and we'll we'll need to wrap up pretty soon here but Jesse I've got a question for you as far as uh I'm giving you a heads up again something you've learned about following God's will in all of this um the uh when you look at uh the when the music ministry you started out in Arizona you guys were on a uh record label same first label that third day was on you had uh charting Christian rock songs you had uh hits on the Christian charts and everything but all of that you weren't going to tour you made that clear your goal through that was just to be able to use it as a vehicle to bring the hope of Jesus to native young people and that's what you did like you said you did you could have been playing you won't say this about yourself just like you were saying things about Jesse and his giftings where you could have used them to be much more popular well known whatever it would be but you were more content in a room with 30 native young people who came out to learn more about Jesus than you were in because I saw you in rooms where there were hundreds of kind of just a typical youth group setting and you liked those two but you came alive in the others and that's what you continue to do with warrior worship.

Serve The People In Front Of You

SPEAKER_01 28:33

You continue to say I want this to help lead native young people closer to Jesus Jesse what's something you've learned in in this journey well the more that I've learned the more the less confident I become in my in my my uh my foresight my uh understanding of how things are going to play out like Doug was saying I mean just like I drew it up right but there is one thing that does stick out to me that I feel like uh has gotten under my skin to some degree and it's to serve in the capacity that God has given me today. Uh get my eyes out of the binoculars God's will two years off five years off ten years off that it's good to have a plan but in some respects it's none of my business. What is God giving me to do today? Who are and and specifically who are the people that God has put right in front of me to serve I want to see them. So often I think the way God's will is painted is that people are treated like stepping stones to get to where I I need to be to be in God's will and it's the people right in front of me that are God's will for me today. And that's what I so want to stay focused on and not um get worried about what does God's will look like two steps or three steps down the road. Who has God given me to serve today?

SPEAKER_02 30:08

And that is blowing me away and that is how boy using people as stepping stones the serve the person in front of you and that's your obedience and and by the way a cool side thing God's going to inform you along the way he's going that's gonna lead to this that's gonna lead to this not as stepping stones because that's such a great point but um serving him with the gifts you have today right now rather than I'll I'll put this in gear I'll let people know what I'm made of once I've hit this point in my plan it just God just doesn't work that way. We wish he would sometimes but he just doesn't I'm gonna ask you guys one more question just a second.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

It's

Where To Start With Warrior Worship

SPEAKER_00 31:01

uh a song or two you think people would be like man I I love this one person. I would love to encourage people to check it out because they can we've said you can check out Warrior Worship on Spotify on Apple Music all these places at onegleswings.com but if they're like man I where where do I start? Because there's 11 albums now uh where do they start? So I'll go to that in just a second but uh just to recap some of the things you've heard God's will is surprising God's will is exciting God's will will take you places where you're just like wow I can't believe what I would have missed if I hadn't taken those first steps uh what Jesse shared about letting God's will lead you to the today moments. What does God want me to do today? Who does he want me to serve today? To be willing to take risks we also talked about being able to go out there and say I need to follow his will to encourage someone else or maybe to let my gifts shine a little bit more how he wants me to not to do it for prideful reasons or anything else but with humility but to say Lord here are my gifts what do you want to do with them so there's a lot that we've covered today about God's will and following God's will and the importance of that and the surprises of it but as we wrap up here Jesse Doug what's a couple songs one or two songs that come to mind that you're like man if people were checking something this is one of the ones that I love to go to Jesse.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

No Doug you go first no I won't go first I'm just kidding I'll go first uh uh it so we do we our albums really are quite diverse musically some of them are yeah a lot more kind of straightforward what you you think of as modern worship music a lot of it's more pop and a lot of it's somewhere in between um if you were going to if you wanted to listen to something that maybe your church could sing along to uh Hope of all the world is is a great one that uh Doug wrote a few years ago there's one this year called On Eagle's wings that I think uh well it it it really ties in with uh the ministry that we have here. If you're gonna go more just for listening uh Doug wrote one a few years ago called Forgiven and I've always felt like that one is possibly the most broadly appealing song that we've done in terms of uh just musically and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

So that's what I think there's one song called Upon the Rock that Jesse wrote that um boy I think it's we've been singing it for maybe five or six years and it always when we have to choose songs it's always on there. It's this incredible it's kind of sparse musically uh there's a vocal and there's some keys and uh but it's it's all about no matter what is going on in your life no matter what the craziness is I stand on the rock it's I will always return to Jesus and that has just resonated in a huge way with with uh the young people there's a song called Rebels that it I was gonna mention that if you did it it's it it's more of a rock song um it's gonna be for certain churches out there but I I love it's not but it's a we write theme songs yes based on the theme every year Warrior Leadership Summit yeah so WLS one year was rebels and not of course being rebellious but being a rebel against what the world is telling you to do and and um you know Jesus going against the grain um some people would say i uh just that that if you are going to um if you're gonna listen the m the the further the world gets along here if you're gonna listen to God and obey him you are a rebel um so the song is basically uh for some reason every year we can't get away with the one of the favorites of the Warriors for sure but it's interesting because the I don't think it's because so much the music or anything like that. It's because the message of it is that no matter what you have to be willing to take a stand for Jesus Christ no matter what your environment is and some of these young people come from if you know our ministry in Native American you know anything about Native America they come from some of the most difficult awful um just sometimes the background some dysfunction in family and and all and there's a lot of can be a lot of abuse around and everything but the bottom line is no matter what people are saying about this Jesus I take a stand for him and that's so as I'm actually discussing it right now it's interesting upon the rock and rebels both have that theme that no matter what I'm sticking with Jesus and I think that that's uh the heart in a lot of ways of Warrior Leadership Summit.

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And it's the heart of following God's will sticking with Jesus uh you didn't mean to do that but you did that I am can we remind you I would encourage you to check out uh light up the night uh that's uh always been a favorite as well I always love that one um there's so many good ones out there I've got ones racing through my head but that's that's the only song I think that we have done the last 10 years in a row. Yeah it is in early and then actually that your church may want to sing that one too. But it is there are uh and actually I do think on the Un Eagles Wings website there's some chords and everything I think for warrior worship songs actually we don't hold that back. So uh there you go. This is all fantastic. I my hope is that you guys as you're listening and thinking about God's will for your life that you'll also find some new tunes here to jam out to this summer. What time for a great summer fun playlist because there's some fun songs there's some deep meaningful songs. Check out Warrior Worship wherever you're finding your music check out warrior worship uh don't look for them vinyl yet we would love to someday actually but I uh we are uh so glad you joined us for this podcast today this is one small story from Doug and Jesse's lives there's so much more God has done in and through them but I really asked them they were I had to push a little bit to do this today because I really wanted to hear their stories. It is so much to learn about following and knowing and doing God's will in the story.

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Trust them just trust them.

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So keep listening to him this summer and we'll be back in touch with this soon with more another guest here on Go Mad with Doug and Brad so until next time Go Mad